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Old 11-15-2016, 11:55 AM   #1
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nobody claims that the Split nose or other

Mach II hp, controlable, handgun bullet is a magical stopper. What I DO claim is that a 70 gr split nose, at 2200 fps, 750 ft lbs, from a .45 Commander is many times more likely to suffice than a 230 gr non plus p jhp from the same gun. 95% stops is 5 failures in 100 chest hit men.(by one shot). 75% stopper (which is all that 230 gr load IS, since it doesn't expand and only has 300 ft lbs) is 25 failures in 100 such shootings. 5 is 5x better in such a situation, but it's still a 1 in 20 chance of a failure to stop. If you're unwilling to pay $200 for 100 rds that are 5x as likely to suffice, well, it's your sorry, cheapskate arse that's at stake.

The Split Nose offers TWO wound channels, not one, so you're twice as likely to hit something vital. Those wound channels are WIDER than a .45 hole, cause they are the full length of the bullet, turned sideways for part of their journey thru the target. They are made of copper, harder than lead, so they dont "erode" from friction or fragment like lead does and their corners are "sharp". The Mach II impact speeds mean that the temporary gas cavities really ARE capable of destroying fragile vital organ tissue that was not actually touched by the bullet segments. This is especially true of the area between the diverging wound channels.

So you're hitting with twice as much shock and tissue destruction, while having less recoil. What's not to like? If you "think" that the penetration is inadequate, just hold 8" of animal in front of your chest, while my wife fires a Split Nose .45 into her side of the critter. You'll be perfectly safe, according to your bs theories about "lack of penetration". It takes a lot of energy for a bullet segment to exit one skin and pierce another, and according to YOU, a "mere" 2" of penetration wont bother you at ALL. :-)
 
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:02 PM   #2
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Again with the split nose. Most people are not going to sit around with a hacksaw an dremel making bullets.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 02:16 PM   #3
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Fwiw, same questions I’ve asked before, and which you don’t answer:
I'm not saying that light, fast bullets aren't very capable. I'm saying "how do you do that?". For visual reference, a 70-grain .45-caliber copper disc is darn near the same shape as a hockey puck. A hockey puck's thickness is 38% of its diameter, and 70 grains of copper creates a 45-caliber "puck" whose thickness is 42% of its diameter. Very close to the same in shape.



So how do we reshape a hockey puck's worth of material (while maintaining the same diameter) into something with a nose, much less TWO noses; in a shape that can be seated deep enough into the case to prevent setback or tilting, and protruding OUT of the case enough and with a shape conducive to reliable feeding? Remember, we're starting with a "puck" only 19 one-hundredths of an inch to begin with.

That's my question. Only three possibilities here:
A - Is my math wrong?
B - Is it that you have a way to do it that I just haven't thought of? (That's always a possibility) or:
C - Is it that you just made this 70-grain, 45-caliber, split-point bullet up in your head, completely out of thin air..?

One (or more) of those three things must be true. I don't claim to know which one it is. But to ignore the simple question (a simple question about YOUR design and YOUR claims, that are the specific topic of YOUR thread) makes it simply appear that you don't have an answer.

Once again, we're back to the simple reality that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof".

Extraordinary claims without proof, must logically be considered as fiction until such time as proof is provided. So help move your claims into the realm of non-fiction, and show us how this bullet of yours is shaped. You say we should make some. I can't figure out how. Help me do so.

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…The Split Nose offers TWO wound channels, not one, so you're twice as likely to hit something vital. Those wound channels are WIDER than a .45 hole, cause they are the full length of the bullet, turned sideways for part of their journey thru the target. They are made of copper…
Using the hockey-puck picture above, how does the right half or left half of that disc end up being bigger than the diameter of the disc as a whole?

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….and according to YOU, a "mere" 2" of penetration wont bother you at ALL. :-)
A — who is the “you” that you’re talking to?
B — who here said that a mere 2” of penetration wouldn’t bother them?

Name the person who you claim said this, or be caught in another blatant lie.
 
 
Old 11-15-2016, 03:43 PM   #4
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2018, she will have the funding to get a partner, start selling Split Nose bullets to reloaders. Maybe it will one day be loaded ammo. Many of today's ammo makers, garrett, Corbon, Black Hills, DoubleTap, MagSafe, Glaser, started as one man outfits. Once a screwmachine, etc is set up to make them, there will be $1 each profit in the 1.50 each retail price of the bullets themselves. :-) Once the videos go out about what they DO, they'll sell by the 100's of thousands.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 03:50 PM   #5
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Another get rich scheme that will not work.
FordPrefect likes this.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 03:55 PM   #6
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Sounds like "Wifey" is going to run out of time with all these schemes.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:02 PM   #7
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so **** you. People who are too lazy/cheap to get a vastly superior product can just do without. She doesn't need your petty ass. There's plenty of people who DO care about superior performance. glasers were selling for $2 each, by the 100's of thousands, 30 years ago, when that was like $8 each. Why have 1000's of dollars in toy guns and claim you "cant afford" $200 worth of testing and carry ammo? that's retarded.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:02 PM   #8
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she'll have plenty of help.:-)
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:04 PM   #9
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if one "scheme" doesn't make LOTS money, it will get dropped and the others get more attentio, that's all. Something a time clock puncher like you would never understand. if one really takes off, people will get hired to take advantage of it.
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:14 PM   #10
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Are your two brain cells ever in communication with each other?
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:17 PM   #11
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Who in your rattled brain can't afford GOOD ammo?
 
Old 11-15-2016, 04:50 PM   #12
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...Many of today's ammo makers, garrett, Corbon, Black Hills, DoubleTap, MagSafe, Glaser, started as one man outfits.
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so **** you. People who are too lazy/cheap to get a vastly superior product can just do without.
I never said I was unwilling or unable to pay for them. I asked "how do you make them?"

IE, show a shape; a drawing, a clay model, whatever. You say its performance is great, and since you didn't buy them, it means you must have made them. Show us how they're made, show us what the finished product looks like, show us anything.

I've asked civilly and repeatedly, and you still haven't shown one example of what you say we should be using.

Show us how you take this much material from bar stock:


and make it into something the same diameter, with two 'noses' on it, that will be feed-reliable AND be so long that when it breaks in half, the severed halves are longer than the starting diameter was.

Please; if it exists, show us. If you can make one exist, show us. If you can make a model of one exist, show us.
 
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