Just Read Ayoob's "In The Gravest Extreme"

Unalist · 04-18-2011, 06:20 AM

It's good for understanding the law and only a little dated at 30 years old (published 1980). I disagreed with some of the specific recommendations on weapons and calibers but this is more from me having opinions of my own than any inherent inferiority on the ones offered. All in all that means I agreed with almost all of the suggestions he made. Some of the information was good for homes with children. Such as your kids "know" not to mess with any of your guns, they are secured but did you cover if they are out and one of thier freinds gets out a gun? The only thing that would need to be seriously overhaulled was the chapter on women which was antiquated at best.

Opinions?

jasper · 04-18-2011, 07:27 AM

Read that book probably 20-25 years ago, think I'll dig it out again...

Still like Ed McGiverns "Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting" - not about law & s/d so much, but whats the point of shooting if ya can't hit the target?... and that book makes it fun!

bye the bye - always taught my kid that unless YOU'RE the one with the gun, something bad could happen...just wanted her to be aware of what was about even at the range.........and you can never take back a bullet once it leaves the barrel....

differ · 07-11-2012, 01:50 PM

His baloney about all the reloading, with a 38 snub, was a joke. So was the thing about 25 yd ability with same. As a civilian, you'd be stupid, indeed, to interfere with a bank robbery. The size of bank lobbies being the reason Ayoob gives for such a ridiculous distance for "ability" with the .38 snub.

Garand · 10-20-2012, 06:24 AM

I haven't read the book, though I had a friend with a nickled S&W 2 1/2" Model 19 about 22 years ago could accurately nail anything he wanted to using .38 +P loads out to 35 yards. You don't see it often but he had a gift!

04-18-2011, 06:20 AM	#1
Unalist Registered User Joined: Aug 2009 From: WA Posts: 417	Just Read Ayoob's "In The Gravest Extreme" It's good for understanding the law and only a little dated at 30 years old (published 1980). I disagreed with some of the specific recommendations on weapons and calibers but this is more from me having opinions of my own than any inherent inferiority on the ones offered. All in all that means I agreed with almost all of the suggestions he made. Some of the information was good for homes with children. Such as your kids "know" not to mess with any of your guns, they are secured but did you cover if they are out and one of thier freinds gets out a gun? The only thing that would need to be seriously overhaulled was the chapter on women which was antiquated at best. Opinions?

04-18-2011, 07:27 AM	#2
jasper Registered User Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 433	Read that book probably 20-25 years ago, think I'll dig it out again... Still like Ed McGiverns "Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting" - not about law & s/d so much, but whats the point of shooting if ya can't hit the target?... and that book makes it fun! bye the bye - always taught my kid that unless YOU'RE the one with the gun, something bad could happen...just wanted her to be aware of what was about even at the range.........and you can never take back a bullet once it leaves the barrel.... Last edited by jasper; 04-18-2011 at 10:05 AM.

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07-11-2012, 01:50 PM	#3
differ Registered User Joined: Jul 2012 From: usa Posts: 20	His baloney about all the reloading, with a 38 snub, was a joke. So was the thing about 25 yd ability with same. As a civilian, you'd be stupid, indeed, to interfere with a bank robbery. The size of bank lobbies being the reason Ayoob gives for such a ridiculous distance for "ability" with the .38 snub.

10-20-2012, 06:24 AM	#4
Garand Registered User Joined: Jun 2004 From: Canadian Badlands Posts: 6,234	I haven't read the book, though I had a friend with a nickled S&W 2 1/2" Model 19 about 22 years ago could accurately nail anything he wanted to using .38 +P loads out to 35 yards. You don't see it often but he had a gift!