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Old 07-05-2008, 07:00 PM   #1
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12GA FH-- Hairy Blaster--

Just visiting here to tell about our
12GA From Hell videos on Youtube, and a
little info about our ongoing work. If you
have questions please ask. Here is pic of our
12GA FH cartridge on the right. Ed Hubel

The videos are called--

Grandpa's First Shot


Grandpa's Cannon


 
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:08 AM   #2
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Great Stuff Ed, glad to see you're still working on it.
 
Old 07-08-2008, 08:05 PM   #3
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yes, as I've read/followed some of 'yer' work.

I recall something about an H-R 'topper' able to handle 'yer' LOAD!!!

,,,and/or,,,IS THAT JUST a LOAD?
 
 
Old 07-08-2008, 08:53 PM   #4
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It is not a Topper which is a SB1 action, but the 12ga Ultra Slug gun
as well as modern 10ga NEFs are SB2 actions, and are alloy
steel and heatreated and can take a lot more. And in NEF 12ga
Ultra with longer chamber and our brass case we get a 600gr
slug to 2500. In same gun with 3.5" plastic case we get almost
2100 fps. Our secret is that we use slower powders than shotgun
powders, thus keeping peak pressure down, but are able to use
much more powder, for a longer taller average pressure curve,
thus getiing more velocity. Same thing in our NEF 10ga testing.Ed
 
Old 07-08-2008, 09:13 PM   #5
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Thumbs up

thanks, ed!,,,AND,,,rock-on!,,,and by the way,,,"KEEP PUSHING ON"

as I think YOUR one hellv'a guy! got a 'link' to a site?


I remember talk of turned-down .50 b.m.g. casings
 
Old 08-13-2008, 10:51 PM   #6
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The first 12GA FH was Robs on AR forum, my Savage was 2nd.
Here is closeup pic of Rob's 12GA FH, a Borchardt falling block
action. Real nice. In picture is along brass 12ga case with one
of Rob's 2000gr bore rider, solid, streamlined slugs. Ed

 
Old 08-23-2008, 10:24 PM   #7
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Here is picture of a neat scaled up Sharps replica
that would handle out 12GA FH and my 700HE.
That outside hammer looks great. From a magazine
article in Very High Power...Ed

 
Old 09-05-2008, 08:30 PM   #8
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Here are some of the variety of slugs pictured,
that we have tested. 3rd picture is my Savage 210
I put the heavy 12ga barrel on and chambered
it for our long brass case.Ed





 
Old 09-05-2008, 11:47 PM   #9
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I'v got a .458 Win. Magnum,how is recoil compared to this ,in your 12 FH? I also got a link to your site.Would like verry much to shoot one
 
Old 09-06-2008, 12:21 AM   #10
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Shooting a 600gr in my Savage at say 3000 is about like
a full power load in a 8 lb 458. Savage is heavy, 23lbs.Ed
 
Old 09-06-2008, 03:22 PM   #11
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Streamlined bullets should get good acuracy to 1000yds.and beyond.Siting upright would'nt be a problem with recoil,I'm not fond of muzzle breaks to Loud on the ears,Ialways wear hearing protection anyway,it would shure wake them up at the range.My .458 Win.Mag. always makes someone mad at the range.Any plans for a Magazine in the future? In most cases one would be enough for T REX or larger animalsPeople ask me what I hunt with the .458,and I usualy smile and say anything I want.And for that reason I like verry much your 12ga.F-H.

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Old 09-12-2008, 07:37 AM   #12
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Here is a picture of some saboted slugs we have tested.
Second pic is our NEF that we have lengthened chamber
on for our 12GA FH. We added heavy stock and thick pad. Ed



 
Old 09-12-2008, 08:31 AM   #13
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Also --Here is picture of a dart type 12ga slug Rob made. Body
is aluminum, it has a heavy tungsten carbide insert in the
nose. The TC in the nose is about 5 times denser than AL.
Total length is 2.35 inches, weight about 950 gr. The .75" long
insert a real tight type fit. Heat AL, put in insert, cools, locks on.
It is fairly streamlined, yet has wide meplat for penetration
in game. Flat points penetrate straighter in game.
It is hollow inside in the back, behind insert which puts the
center of gravity way up front, it should fly straight even from
a smoothbore. They are fast to make and material
less expense than copper.In pic is a copper and a brass 600
cal slugs for comparison. Dart/slug on right has insert.Ed

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Old 09-13-2008, 01:19 AM   #14
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that's "sweet-stuff" your postin' hubel.458!!!
thanks, I love it, give us MORE.
[SAFELY,PLEASE]

 
Old 09-15-2008, 12:08 AM   #15
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Here are more samples of nice 12ga slugs.....Here is pic of
ones RG Henson sent. Jacketed 12ga. 715gr hollowpoints,
on the right and in front a jkt 675gr hollowbase.
RG's number 1-770-366-4846. These will be great for
shorter plastic and brass cases as well as long cases.
Other slugs in pic, in the back, left to right
Foster 436gr- Dixie 600gr- 750gr brass- my 750gr hollowbase
brass, and a hollowpoint I put a lightweight filler in the nose
for streamlining..Ed

 
Old 09-24-2008, 09:06 AM   #16
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Here is picture of our case sectioned next to a
thin factory brass case to show the great strength.
And our case in pic was fired 35 times and shows
no stretching. Ed

 
Old 09-27-2008, 11:56 PM   #17
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Testing 715gr jacketed hollowpoint from RG Henson in Savage 210.
With 30 inch barrel, long brass 3.85" case, big primer.
Slightly hairy load 290gr RL22--2700 fps. Shot moderate load
of 300gr W-860 -- 2400 fps for 3 shot group of 3" at 50
yards with my bad eyes and peep sights. They shoot nice, they go
into target straight.. Other nice thing the price from RG,
for customers getting in on his first run, $1.25 plus shipping.
That is less than half of what other big bore jkt bullets cost.
Call him for some great slugs. They are great like
the Dixie slugs. Ed
 
Old 10-01-2008, 10:23 PM   #18
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Lookee what another santa sent me.
A regular BMG case on the left, and
a straight BMG case on the right, and it
CAME FROM THE MANUFACTURER THAT WAY.

It is primer cartridge for large guns and howitzers.
It is used in those guns/cannons that have powder in big bags.
It is filled with powder and inserted into cannon breach and
when fired sets off the larger charge. On some cannon breaches
they have an automatic feed for these with a huge 40 round
drum magazine. This on is marked IVI 89 C67. IVI is Canadian.
On these breaches it is held by collet fingers for head space
and for ejection.

Ok, there are many thousands more of these out there than the
PROP cases I showed before. We need to find few barrels of these
and have Rob, etal, put on rims.... no annealing.....no fireforming,
just slight resize to 12GA FH. Please help if you know of any.
They would save so much work and time..And even though fired
the bases are perfectly straight, another plus.....Ed

 
Old 10-05-2008, 09:48 PM   #19
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Here is a picture of RG's jacketed 715gr slugs in various
loads.First are 2.75" and 3" factory foster slugs\ for
comparison. 3rd is jkt HP in 3.5" plastic case, 4th in a
3" brass RMC case. 5th in a 3.5" brass case with small
primer, 6th in our long brass 3.85" case, big primer.
Top hairy load in long case in Savage, 2900..Ed

 
Old 10-12-2008, 10:28 PM   #20
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Please notice in the picture above, cases loaded with
the 715 gr jacketed slugs, the 3rd and 4th ones.
They both have same 90gr of 4227, same number of
wads, shoot at 1700 in 24" NEF barrel. 3rd plastic is
3.5" case, the 4th brass is a 3" RMC. Both have shotgun
primers.The 5th longer case is a 3.5" strong
brass one I made from a PROP case, and when I put
in primer bushing, I set it up for shotgun primer. I
will test it with 4227 powder, 600gr and 715 gr slugs.
Also in a couple months Rob, who's idea the 12GA FH
was will be able to deliver the super strong 12GA FH
cases made from BMG brass. And the they will be
headstamped, all done by his CNC machine.Ed

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