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Old 11-06-2016, 02:19 PM   #1
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few farmers have more than a shotgun.

often just a single shot or bolt action shotgun, or a .22, often a bolt action .22, or maybe, if they hunt deer or coyotes, a bolt action in 223, etc. They are in no position whatsoever to do jack shyte, night or day, against a guy with night vision, soft armor, silenced autorifle, subsonic ammo, who can really shoot and is determined to not let them do jack shyte.
 
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Old 11-06-2016, 02:52 PM   #2
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often just a single shot or bolt action shotgun, or a .22, often a bolt action .22, or maybe, if they hunt deer or coyotes, a bolt action in 223, etc. They are in no position whatsoever to do jack shyte, night or day, against a guy with night vision, soft armor, silenced autorifle, subsonic ammo, who can really shoot and is determined to not let them do jack shyte.
What "guy" are we talking about? You have none of these things. You know how Farmer's across the U.S. are armed? How? Did you take a Nationwide Poll?

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Old 11-06-2016, 03:26 PM   #3
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all my family and early year friends were farmers. Very few have more than what I said. It's a safe bet that little if anything has changed or is different anywhere else. Night vision, luminous sights, soft armor, silencer and subsonic ammo are such fantastic advantages that some twit with a 30-30 or sks is going to make no difference. While he's out trying to guard his cattle, somebody's going to be burning down his house. He's going to have to choose and guess what? He'll know that he can't defend more than a very few of his cattle, if any. He'll have to heard them in close to his barn and spend all night prowling around. Passive IR will spot him, and subsonic ammo and silencer will mean that nobody knows that he's been killed. Same with any of his kids that he assigns such a stupid venture to. The farmer/rancher is just 3% of the population. He's outnumbered by 30 to 1. If he has any smarts, hell have stuff cached below ground and be inside of such a hidey-hole himself.
 
 
Old 11-06-2016, 04:11 PM   #4
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When was this? The '50's? Look around at a few farms today. Their company owned, not owned by Hiram Hayrick. All your planning is out of date. Your little rustling foray might meet armed guards. Who knows?
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Old 11-06-2016, 05:43 PM   #5
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Geez Melvin, are you out of touch with reality. I know many farmers that own an average of at least 15-17 firearms in the house. The larger the family the larger the collection. Many farmer out here these days are armed on a regular basis.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...guns-1.3770769
 
Old 11-07-2016, 03:48 PM   #6
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And,one should never discount the guy-farmer or otherwise-who " only owns a couple of firearms".... More often than not,they use them regularly and know both the weapon's limits AND their own .....and can transcend them.
The elderly hill dweller with an " obsolete" arm has more often than not done for the unwelcome visitor with the Tactical Toy Shop .
 
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...a single shot or bolt action shotgun, or a .22, often a bolt action .22, or maybe, if they hunt deer or coyotes, a bolt action in 223...
Other than from 1980 to 1993, I've lived either on a farm or in the country my entire (crowding 60-year) life. And I've NEVER known ANY farmer who owned just a shotgun or just a 22. And I've also NEVER known a farmer who has a bolt-action .223; not one.

I've known many who have semiauto .223's (more mini's than AR's), and most of them own some centerfire semiauto rifle. Whether it's a ruger .44 auto or an old .35 Winchester (no, not a typo), I can think of only two country-dwellers of my acquaintance who don't own a semiauto centerfire rifle; and both of those have lever-action centerfire rifles and semiauto 12-gauges.

Maybe all those people just didn't share the details of their guns with you...
 
Old 12-10-2016, 11:56 AM   #8
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Couple years ago I was at a farmers house down the road an seen the biggest collection of Browning A-5s that I ever seen. Another one I knew years ago put a ad out wanting to sell a Colt Commander, went there to buy it an looked at Colts for 5 hours an never seen the same one twice. Then found out he also ran a gun show that was biggest around. Think Melvin would remember him. Never under estimate any farmer cause there is most likely a 45 or a HiPower on them.
 
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